American Football Discussion Thread

[ty3c]

Originally Posted by I pwnd U

wow the raiders were pathetic this season. this was not the team they were suppose to be. they were suppose to excel w/ moss and their def./ but they fell flat on their faces adn did horrible. moss did alrite but collins didnt have a good season and they didnt have a prominent enough running game. waiting for moss to announce he wants to be traded! and anyone else ticked over the mike tice, sherman, and martz firings?

Sherman should not have been fired say goodbye to the great number four brett favre.

mike tice yea he had no control over himself or his players

martz I am unsure about hes a good coach im sure he will land a job soon tho.

200th post wow thats really cool.

[Rogmar]

Originally Posted by I pwnd U

wow the raiders were pathetic this season. this was not the team they were suppose to be. they were suppose to excel w/ moss and their def./ but they fell flat on their faces adn did horrible. moss did alrite but collins didnt have a good season and they didnt have a prominent enough running game. waiting for moss to announce he wants to be traded! and anyone else ticked over the mike tice, sherman, and martz firings?

Well i can see why Tice and Martz were fired, how do you lose to my 49'ers after getting to the super bowl recently
But sherman, wow, thats ridiculous, you can't blame the guy for an injured season, he's a great coach, nothing pisses me off more than a great coach fired
BTW im not a Packers fan :P

[ty3c]

Originally Posted by Rogmar

Well i can see why Tice and Martz were fired, how do you lose to my 49'ers after getting to the super bowl recently
But sherman, wow, thats ridiculous, you can't blame the guy for an injured season, he's a great coach, nothing pisses me off more than a great coach fired
BTW im not a Packers fan :P

I argee sherman was not the reason and for them to throw out favre and him is a shame these two greats in the NFL one a QB the other a coach

I will miss these guys.

Im an eagles fan but you gotta respect how good these two are

but I will never respect the bucs or pats I hate them both till the day I die.

[I pwnd U]

ya i agree. shermans firing was terrible. uncalled for and everything. tice and martz were understandable. martz health was unstabble and tice just couldnt be consistent (they beat the bears second and thrid string whoopity doo). but sherman beign fired was uncalled for.

[Rogmar]

Originally Posted by ty3c

I argee sherman was not the reason and for them to throw out favre and him is a shame these two greats in the NFL one a QB the other a coach

I will miss these guys.

Im an eagles fan but you gotta respect how good these two are

but I will never respect the bucs or pats I hate them both till the day I die.

Pats- ok till they started winning too much, the only dynasty i like is the 49'ers :P
Bucs- how do you end up in the play offs after losing to the 49'ers?
Eagles- Owned by Seahawks :P but i feel bad because they didnt have their star players

[ty3c]

Originally Posted by Rogmar

Pats- ok till they started winning too much, the only dynasty i like is the 49'ers :P
Bucs- how do you end up in the play offs after losing to the 49'ers?
Eagles- Owned by Seahawks :P but i feel bad because they didnt have their star players

Eagles= OWENS killed us this year.
Bucs= a few bad calls and they where in the playoffs
Pats= brady just makes me mad and I hate that whole team dynasty my foot dallas won four or five super bowls, 49ers five super bowls,steelers four super bowls

3 is not even close to me and on cheap field goals lol.

[I pwnd U]

not cheap field goals. just well timed ones. yes bellicheck has great clock management which helped them get the win along w/ venitaris great kicks. they werent cheap just time managed well.

[Aracos79]

Why do people continue to sell the Patriots dynasty short? Three Super Bowls in four years is THE standard for championship dominance, a feat matched only by the 90's Dallas Cowboys in the Super Bowl era. Does the fact they won by only 3 points make those victories any less significant? You go back and watch that game ending drive against the Rams in Super Bowl XXXVI and tell me that wasn't significant. That was Tom Brady at his best... before we even knew how good he really was. Even the Patriot-haters will miss them when they're gone, because we are watching one of the greatest teams of all time... not just in football, but in all team sports. This is a team that DEFINES team, and an example that a lot of people could learn to follow.

[ty3c]

Originally Posted by Aracos79

Why do people continue to sell the Patriots dynasty short? Three Super Bowls in four years is THE standard for championship dominance, a feat matched only by the 90's Dallas Cowboys in the Super Bowl era. Does the fact they won by only 3 points make those victories any less significant? You go back and watch that game ending drive against the Rams in Super Bowl XXXVI and tell me that wasn't significant. That was Tom Brady at his best... before we even knew how good he really was. Even the Patriot-haters will miss them when they're gone, because we are watching one of the greatest teams of all time... not just in football, but in all team sports. This is a team that DEFINES team, and an example that a lot of people could learn to follow.

around the time these other teams played the QB had alot less rules to protect him thats why

brady is a wimp I see him fall down and act like he got hit really hard and it's all an act.dallas,giants,packers,steelers, 49ers all where great teams and watching them was great even the 1999 rams or the denver brady is just a guy who got lucky cuz of bad calls, vet players around him, and some stupid kicker who i hate till the day i die,

PATS ARE NOT GREAT AND THE JAGS WILL PROVE THIS.

Best QB ever was Joe montana he played in that harder days he is something who i really enjoy watching play in the old days or the 70s steelers awasome team

people after the stupid bucs won there first super bowl tried to say they where like the 1985 bears lol those bears where awasome and walter payton. and emmith smith are the best backs who ever played

just be ready to be shocked when the jags win in foxboro, when the panthers win at the giants, and when the redskins burry the bucs.

it will happen after all one said i told my father once

the falcons would go into green bay in below 40s and beat the 20-0 favre in that time the falcons did just about anyone would say i was crazy to make that pick but it worked and it was as i said i have a sixth sense and it's perception it may sound crazy but i can perdict some stuff and i dont even know how i how i just know.

[conker]

Originally Posted by ty3c

around the time these other teams played the QB had alot less rules to protect him thats why

brady is a wimp I see him fall down and act like he got hit really hard and it's all an act.dallas,giants,packers,steelers, 49ers all where great teams and watching them was great even the 1999 rams or the denver brady is just a guy who got lucky cuz of bad calls, vet players around him, and some stupid kicker who i hate till the day i die,

PATS ARE NOT GREAT AND THE JAGS WILL PROVE THIS.

Best QB ever was Joe montana he played in that harder days he is something who i really enjoy watching play in the old days or the 70s steelers awasome team

people after the stupid bucs won there first super bowl tried to say they where like the 1985 bears lol those bears where awasome and walter payton. and emmith smith are the best backs who ever played

just be ready to be shocked when the jags win in foxboro, when the panthers win at the giants, and when the redskins burry the bucs.

it will happen after all one said i told my father once

the falcons would go into green bay in below 40s and beat the 20-0 favre in that time the falcons did just about anyone would say i was crazy to make that pick but it worked and it was as i said i have a sixth sense and it's perception it may sound crazy but i can perdict some stuff and i dont even know how i how i just know.

dude, use proper grammar if your going to actually use it. (Comma, period, etc...) also, wtf tom brady faking his falls? he doesnt even act like he got hurt, look at how he plays, hes like the most calm QB i have ever seen, a rusher comes about the sack him, and then he throws- 20-yard-pass, then he gets knocked down, then gets back up. How is he faking it? He has an ankle injury, which you can tell hes not faking because hes wearing a brace, the week after, blowed out buccaneers 28-0.

[Finch]

Originally Posted by ty3c

around the time these other teams played the QB had alot less rules to protect him thats why

brady is a wimp I see him fall down and act like he got hit really hard and it's all an act.dallas,giants,packers,steelers, 49ers all where great teams and watching them was great even the 1999 rams or the denver brady is just a guy who got lucky cuz of bad calls, vet players around him, and some stupid kicker who i hate till the day i die,

PATS ARE NOT GREAT AND THE JAGS WILL PROVE THIS.

Best QB ever was Joe montana he played in that harder days he is something who i really enjoy watching play in the old days or the 70s steelers awasome team

people after the stupid bucs won there first super bowl tried to say they where like the 1985 bears lol those bears where awasome and walter payton. and emmith smith are the best backs who ever played

just be ready to be shocked when the jags win in foxboro, when the panthers win at the giants, and when the redskins burry the bucs.

it will happen after all one said i told my father once

the falcons would go into green bay in below 40s and beat the 20-0 favre in that time the falcons did just about anyone would say i was crazy to make that pick but it worked and it was as i said i have a sixth sense and it's perception it may sound crazy but i can perdict some stuff and i dont even know how i how i just know.

I think you say some of these things out of hate of the team, not the true facts...
1. Brady is an amazing leader, don't take that from him. Hes like a second coach on the field.
2. Adam Vinatieri is an amazing kicker also, probably the best outdoor kicker in football right now.
3. Look at all the injuries the Pats have and look at how they still win. You wanna know what thats called? great coaching.
4. Joe Montana is one of the greats, but you cant say he is the greatest.
5. I don't see where the defense part affects the running back part, but you have to admit, that Bucs defense was very good. Alot of speed and interceptions.
6.You can't limit just Emmit and Walter to being the only best backs, Barry Sanders would have been arguably better than both of them if he didnt retire.
7. You make it seem like winning away is easy, but maybe they will.

[Aracos79]

You know ty, I've enjoyed sparring with you this season. And I'll give you credit for one thing, you stick to your guns. You were even stand up enough to admit when your beloved Iggles had made some bad decisions. But...

... if you are honestly saying that Tom Brady is a wimp, you are a fool. He has CARRIED the Patriots on his back most of the season. When players were dropping like flies to injuries all year long, Brady was the constant. When his team needed him the most, he was there. All he did was LEAD THE LEAGUE in total passing yards this year, and people said he would never be a "big number" quarterback. Tom Brady is exactly what his team needs him to be, on any given Sunday.

He led the team to shutout the Bucs on a bad leg. He is THE greatest leader on any team in the league (sorry Peyton Manning). That drive in Super Bowl XXXVI, pure genius. He and his coaching staff made fools out of the commentators who all assumed the Pats would play for OT. Brady and Bellichik did what they always do, play to WIN.

Montana was great, probably the greatest of his generation. His last Monday night game with the Chiefs against John Elway and the Broncos was the stuff of legend... classic game, to say nothing of his Super Bowl performances. He always made the play when it counted. You know what? So does Tom Brady. I thought Rodney Harrison's injury would be the end of the Pats season, but Brady won't let them die. If I had to guess, I'd say part of the reason you hate him is simply because... he IS that damn good, and he proves it week in and week out.

Will they beat the Jags? Damn straight. Will they get back to the Super Bowl? I don't know. The Colts look unbeatable, especially playing at home. But don't put anything past Brady and this team. I might not have the guts to put my money on it, but I wouldn't be surprised at all if we see Brady's Bunch back in Detriot for a shot at immortality and three straight Super Bowl titles.

[ty3c]

Originally Posted by Aracos79

You know ty, I've enjoyed sparring with you this season. And I'll give you credit for one thing, you stick to your guns. You were even stand up enough to admit when your beloved Iggles had made some bad decisions. But...

... if you are honestly saying that Tom Brady is a wimp, you are a fool. He has CARRIED the Patriots on his back most of the season. When players were dropping like flies to injuries all year long, Brady was the constant. When his team needed him the most, he was there. All he did was LEAD THE LEAGUE in total passing yards this year, and people said he would never be a "big number" quarterback. Tom Brady is exactly what his team needs him to be, on any given Sunday.

He led the team to shutout the Bucs on a bad leg. He is THE greatest leader on any team in the league (sorry Peyton Manning). That drive in Super Bowl XXXVI, pure genius. He and his coaching staff made fools out of the commentators who all assumed the Pats would play for OT. Brady and Bellichik did what they always do, play to WIN.

Montana was great, probably the greatest of his generation. His last Monday night game with the Chiefs against John Elway and the Broncos was the stuff of legend... classic game, to say nothing of his Super Bowl performances. He always made the play when it counted. You know what? So does Tom Brady. I thought Rodney Harrison's injury would be the end of the Pats season, but Brady won't let them die. If I had to guess, I'd say part of the reason you hate him is simply because... he IS that damn good, and he proves it week in and week out.

Will they beat the Jags? Damn straight. Will they get back to the Super Bowl? I don't know. The Colts look unbeatable, especially playing at home. But don't put anything past Brady and this team. I might not have the guts to put my money on it, but I wouldn't be surprised at all if we see Brady's Bunch back in Detriot for a shot at immortality and three straight Super Bowl titles.

Pats after the first four games had it easy the rest of the way in the reg season they faced teams who sucked so no brady just got lucky from that brady is gonna have his but thrown around all day vs jags he's gonna get sacked,fumble, throw ints, hes not always cool handed ive seen him freak out a little off the field and on it for you to say he's always cool is not right also on 60 mins he said "three super bowls isnt there more to life" this shows me he needs to get off the field and get to real life if brady dont like it's one of the greatest things in the world to win three super bowls then he's just stupid the chargers kicked him and his clones all over the place this reg season all you have to do to watch what they did and the pats will fall apart or when denver owned them

thats it just watch and be shocked

ps. I HATE THE PATS AND EVERY PAT FAN ON EARTH I HATE YOU SO MUCH I WISH YOU ALL WOULD DIE.

[Alura Pyro]

Seachickens I mean hawks will go all the way this year

[Rogmar]

Originally Posted by Alura Pyro

Seachickens I mean hawks will go all the way this year

I hope that doesn't relate to the giants game, i don't get why people think 3-pointers are autos with in reasonable range, a game winning field goal missed is like a interception returned for game winning points, a QB is as much to blame on an interception or fumble as a kicker is for a missed field goal
Seahawks make less mistakes, therefore they win, btw giants had tons of fals starts <- many mistakes for giants

[conker]

Originally Posted by ty3c

Pats after the first four games had it easy the rest of the way in the reg season they faced teams who sucked so no brady just got lucky from that brady is gonna have his but thrown around all day vs jags he's gonna get sacked,fumble, throw ints, hes not always cool handed ive seen him freak out a little off the field and on it for you to say he's always cool is not right also on 60 mins he said "three super bowls isnt there more to life" this shows me he needs to get off the field and get to real life if brady dont like it's one of the greatest things in the world to win three super bowls then he's just stupid the chargers kicked him and his clones all over the place this reg season all you have to do to watch what they did and the pats will fall apart or when denver owned them

thats it just watch and be shocked

ps. I HATE THE PATS AND EVERY PAT FAN ON EARTH I HATE YOU SO MUCH I WISH YOU ALL WOULD DIE.

u just said earlier that u like the buccaneers, u think the buccaneers are 1 of the sucky teams as well? i dont think sucky teams get to the playoffs.

[ty3c]

I hate pats and bucs

but I hate pats more.

[I pwnd U]

ok here it is QBs today are softer then they were in the earlier and mid 90s. u wanna know why? watch some of the old games those QBs would sacrifice there bodies for a win. brett farve in a playoff game getting completely turned around in midair just to get a first down so they could get the game winning touchdown. steve young running the ball then getting nailed. those guys were TOUGH! the QBs of today arent as tough. ya the QBs of today are tough, they take alot of hits and everything but they just arent near as tough as teh old QBs. thats just my opinion though.

[ty3c]

Originally Posted by I pwnd U

ok here it is QBs today are softer then they were in the earlier and mid 90s. u wanna know why? watch some of the old games those QBs would sacrifice there bodies for a win. brett farve in a playoff game getting completely turned around in midair just to get a first down so they could get the game winning touchdown. steve young running the ball then getting nailed. those guys were TOUGH! the QBs of today arent as tough. ya the QBs of today are tough, they take alot of hits and everything but they just arent near as tough as teh old QBs. thats just my opinion though.

Brady is a wimp,Mcnabb is tuff,favre was too, others i can list


pats has for the most part one of the easiest reg seasons ever after the firist four games

maimi?bills?jets?siants? lol all sucked this year just proof brady sucks too

I wanna see this brady face the colts,eagles,denver,seattle,giants,panthers,redski ns.bengals. and see how good they are vs all those teams

owens kicked the pats around in the super bowl he ran around all day catching and all so much for the pats D lol.

PATS AND BUCS SUCK AND WILL LOSE FIRST ROUND.

AND YOU CAN TAKE THAT TO THE BANK!

[I pwnd U]

u were correct bucs lost!! redskins just ran all over em and there def took over! great game by the skins. redemption from there 1 point loss to the bucs earlier this year.